Thursday, August 9, 2012

Once Bitten Twice Shy - When Navispam goes a little bit wrong

Zwingli, who is one of the sweetest guys I know, sent me a tweet the other day, saying:
 "Oh, you can Navispam Grimtooth of "Grimtooth's Troops"!

I replied:
 "He doesn't read me though! He has no idea who I am!"

Zwingli said:
"I told Askevar that he needs to be Navispammed by Navimiedruid !  Askevar totally agreed with me."

I know Grimtooth, and I have visited his blog a few times.  The funny thing is, I have heard Grimtooth's voice more than I've read his blog - sound stalkerish?  LOL, well it's not intentional!

My iPod shuffle has one TNB on it and it is Jasyla's one.  I play it in the car all the time because I don't like listening to the radio, and I haven't updated my playlist for ages, and it just keeps cycling through songs and that podcast, since... oh months now.  Might even be coming up to a year!  And at the beginning of Jasyla's TNB, is Grimtooth saying "Hi this is Grimtooth of Grimtooth's troops and you're listening to the Twisted Nether Blogcast." Because he was on the week before Jas.

So.  That's the background to that story.

Anyway, Grimmtooth followed me on Twitter after Zwingli said that and I had to go and spam his blog reading his last 20 or so posts, commenting on ones I could understand.  I had to skip those glyph ones... too hard for my small tree brain.

Nymphy seemed happy for me to visit, so I also visited hers and Orvillus' blog D/E the tank!  (I love WoW couple blogs.  People need to have more of those) and was lucky because there was a new post the day I visited (and the last post was 3 months ago).  Looking on the side bar, I realised that the baby crew that Angelya and Fannon are part of included here, so I was trying to figure out if there was a baby in there somewhere, as well as Cassandri (whom I just missed out on meeting yesterday when I went to Navispam Angelya).  So, despite the fact that none of these people know who I am, I thought, we have a lot of friends in common, so they must be nice people.  I will go visit them.

Now, if you look at my Navispam posts, every one of them so far is a reader of my blog, or has commented on my blog.  That's because I get really excited by all my readers, and I am as much a fan of them as they are of me.  I get starstruck by my readers and am so excited by them that I really want to go meet them in person and thank them.

People think that I am an exuberant, outgoing, friendly person, and yes, I do actively try to be that person.  After all, one thing I am is enthusiastic and sometimes it can be a bit overwhelming.  I thought, if someone was like that to me, how nice would I feel, how flattered!  Maybe I can make others feel that way!  So the enthusiasm does give me confidence sometimes.  But I still always have that slight part of me, everytime I meet someone, the fear of ridicule and rejection, that makes me ashamed, want to go hide in a hole, and paranoid that everyone around me is laughing at me for being an idiot.  Every time I go to a server to meet someone, I have that feeling of dread, but usually from the first tell I get from the person I have come to Navispam, I can tell if they are happy to see me.  So far, everyone has been happy, but that's because everyone I've visited knows me.  Aesadonna was the first person whom I visited who DIDN'T know me and that meeting went so well, my confidence was boosted even more.

So, I was at work, and I'd just settled down, and I thought I would go see if Grimmtooth was on.  Luckily I have an alt on that server already, because there are a hell of a lot of bloggers on that server!

When I got on, none of the people I knew were on in that server, but when I did a /who of the guild (many of whom are quite famous!), there was only one person on.  I recognised the name, because I follow them on Twitter.

Immediately, 3 mistakes are obvious here, when I look at it what happened:
  1. the person was in an instance.  Now it wasn't an Hour of Twilight instance, or even a Zandom/, but just because I don't take those dungeons seriously, doesn't mean other people don't.  I shouldn't have said anything or disturbed them.
  2. Just because I follow someone on twitter and they follow me doesn't mean they know who I am.
  3. I should have been a little more clear what I was doing instead of getting excited over meeting someone I recognised, which may have produced long messages which sound really silly.
So you can see where this is going.

I sent a tell saying "Hi X :)"
I got a DBM reply saying they were fighting the first boss.  That's ok.  I decided to go read Grimmtooth's latest post while I waited (I like how he does those little annotations at the end.  I want to copy that).  They probably didn't even see my whisper anyway - I often don't see whispers when I'm busy.
X replied "Hi, can I help you? What do you want?"
Maybe I should have been a bit more concise and clear here.  I said "I was looking for Nymphy or Grimm, I was hoping to Navispam them :) I'm Navimie from the Daily Frostwolf"
X replied "Never heard of it."
"Will you be out soon?" I asked.
"I'm doing taking serial dungeons atm."
I was just typing my reply "That's ok, if you see either of them can you let them know I was looking for them" when X said to me:
"I'm in an f*ing dungeon, you should know better than to whisper people when I'm trying to tank."

I immediately was contrite and cancelled the reply I was typing and tried to apologise but I was put on ignore.  Well, I didn't mind that, but gosh, that was embarrassing.  I know sometimes you don't want to be disturbed in a dungeon, and maybe the group was difficult and X was cranky.  I totally understand that.  I was so mortified and embarrassed and thought "Crap, I could have done that a lot better, whoops!" that I couldn't face the thought of being on that server any longer to level to get some coin to send a mail to Grimmtooth, so I logged and went back to my main.

2 of my RealID blog buddies were online, and greeted me as soon as I got on.  I said to one of them (who happened to be on Twitter) "OMG, I just had my first BAD Navispam!"
"Oh?" they replied.  "What happened?"
 I relayed what had occurred and how embarrassing it was.
"Do you know what would be terrible," I said.  "I would be mortified if they got on twitter and slagged me off for being an idiot.  It was an honest mistake.  Man I feel stupid."
My friend said "They DID talk about you on twitter!"
"What?" I said.  "No way, really?"
"Oh, I'm going to tell them off!" my friend said.
"No, no please don't!" I said.  "I made the mistake, I don't want it to be any bigger than it is.  I'll just get on twitter and apologise."

So I get on to twitter and THIS is what I see:


Oh. My. GOD.

I was paralysed.  Mortified.  Beyond mortified.  The fear I had of meeting strangers and worrying about them thinking I was an idiot was no longer a maybe.  It was REAL.  It was happening NOW.  It was on a public forum with my name on it and EVERYONE is going to think what an IDIOT I am, and they will start agreeing and saying what a dumbass noob I was who had no idea about anything...

My eyes started to sting.  Oh god, I'm at work.  I cannot... I MUST NOT cry.

I took a breath and wrote my reply to them, apologetic, and hoping to reassure them it was all a misunderstanding.


I couldn't look anymore.  I went back to WoW and spoke to my other dear blog friend, who isn't on Twitter and has no idea who these people are, and tell him of my shame.  He reassured me that it didn't matter what other people said, that it was an honest mistake, and people who know me, who are my friends, will not think any differently of me.  And that nobody should speak to me like that.

Now before anyone starts vilifying me or the person in question - stop.  I don't want anyone to say anything to that person or about that person, because you don't know what they had been going through that day.  Maybe they had a bad day.  Maybe they read me and think I am really stupid anyway.  Maybe, they have Aspergers, or they're sleep deprived and that caused them to act out of character.  Whatever the reason, what's done is done and I don't believe in retribution, retaliation or trying to defend my point, when inside I know I wasn't trying to be malicious or bad.  It was an honest mistake.  And I already know my mistake, I have been thinking about it for the last 5 hours.  Tears have been pricking my eyes everytime my mind turned back to it.  When I got home, I sat down, opened up my blog, hit new post and let the tears flow, and yes, it maybe just a silly little thing, a GAME, but it mattered to ME.  I am allowed to cry over my fear becoming a reality.  And if I just let it out, it will go away, like every other bad thing I get upset about.  And it has.  I feel better now.

But other people would say that if that happened to them, they wouldn't have acted that way.  Of course, I wouldn't have acted that way either, but I'm one of those people who gets excited when people chat to me, even if I'm in heroic Dragon Soul.  And if I can't reply them then, I will reply them later.  I don't lash out because what if that person was someone like I was, someone who was just trying to extend a little friendly hand, and I'm like the dog, and if I bite them, they will never extend that hand again.  Besides, I would just tell them I was busy and they would understand, I'm sure.

Now I may be timid sometimes, I will always get over it and push through it, because one thing I do have is... ambition and dreams.  I am still scared of meeting people but I WANT to do it, I have my goal, my project and this dream of mine will not be brought low by one bad encounter.  My dreams are bigger than my fears.  There will probably BE more bad encounters to come, just like that one.

There are still so many more people that I want to visit, to let them know how much I admire and appreciate them!  And those that think I'm an idiot for being super friendly... well, know that I will never go where I am not wanted or invited.

I am sure that the person who snapped at me feels bad for doing so.  Because I didn't mean to upset them.  And I'm sure they didn't know that what they did would upset me so much that I would be in tears about it - LOL perhaps they think even WORSE of me and think grow some balls little Tauren!  But I am not sure I was crying so much for the lashback, as I was for the loss of belief in myself.  Doubting my own self worth, when I am one of those people who tries to encourage everyone to believe that they are worth something is... like losing a part of myself, the strong and brave part, the part that gives me courage.  But, amazing how a few tears shed can make all the pain go away.  That, and chocolate :)

So don't worry Grimmtooth and Nymphy.  I'll be back.  It takes more than a bite to keep Navimie away. And besides, to save my poor readers, I have Navispam posts scheduled for only once a day, so if you don't see yours up yet, it's because it's been scheduled to appear at a later date! :D

Phew.  Thanks all for reading.  I'm glad I got that out off my chest.  And my apologies to all who are offended by my behaviour, it really was, an honest mistake.  I won't make that mistake again.





116 comments:

  1. Oh, you are just too darn nice!

    I am sorry this happened to you, but please don't try and justify their behaviour based on what could be wrong with them or their day.

    Their reaction not only to you in game, but then to the public about it was not needed or necessary. There is no way you can ever make be think they should not be publicly humiliated and abused the way you have just been.

    ESPECIALLY with the name calling - that is not needed. ever!

    The simple solution would have been for that person to simply not respond...instead of hurling abuse.

    Irrespective of that, you should never be made to feel like that given how much you contribute to the game, blogging and the community. I know I don't read anywhere near as many blogs as you do, I can't keep them straight in my head with the small amount i read ....but you should never ever be treated like that.

    Don't be shocked when we all jump to defend you - you did nothing wrong - no one will convince me there is something wrong with messaging someone at any time. If you dont like human contact - MMO's are not the platform they should be playing.

    They are in the wrong Navimie and you should not be called names like that in public. Ever.

    Sorry I am a little narky about this...i am shocked once again, by the depths some people can sink to and think it is ok.

    <3 huggles and snuggles and sloppy kisses.

    ps - feel free to edit or moderate this comment if you want - I won't get offended and I will know you have read it anyway :D

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    1. Oh Dragonray :) I won't remove your comment. In fact I've read it a few times now and you are always so passionate about stuff, and since you're being passionate about me, I feel all warm and fuzzy. Thank you for the snuggles and kisses! I look back now and wonder what the hell was I crying about... because I feel a zillion times better now :)

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  2. They are the sort of people who give the community of this game a bad name. There is no reason under to sun to abuse someone just because they asked a simple question. If your busy, tell the person you are busy, or don't say anything. Navi made a mistake, we all do. But to abuse people while on WoW and then on a twitter account because you were tanking a random? Pathetic.

    Navi since I've known you we have had our ups and downs, but you are the kindest most sincere person I have ever met, don't let douche bags put you down. <3 you navi!!

    - Aza

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    1. <3 Aza
      I won't let it change anything. But I will be more cautious in the future.

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  3. All I can say is I wish I was on the NA servers/had a popular blog so that I *could* get Navi spammed. It's an awesome recognition.

    And secondly, there's never any reason to be mean to someone else in such a manner. Never. I know who it was and they are an intimidating personality. I understand how upsetting this sort of thing can be.

    Elsen

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    1. Just coming to visit me and reading my blog is an honour that means you get a Navispam! So look out Elsen - a Navispam will be coming to you sometime! I have a Navimie clone on your server so just add me as a friend and I'll be able to chat to you :)

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  4. There is no defense for this kind of behavior. This is a game, not effing brain surgery. If a whisper in a dungeon was so disturbing then don't answer. To take this to Twitter was kind of a text book example of the typical WoW ass everyone bemoans. Whoever it was should have their picture in WoWWiki with a caption "typical WoW asshat."

    You didn't do anything wrong. I can't remember how many times you've talked to me while I see you're in Dragon Soul. Stupid pathetic twit is apparently not a multi-tasker like you.

    Love and hugs from a dorky Cat, better stop now before I get all fuckity.

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    1. I know I talk to you and anyone while I'm raiding, but I can't expect that others will do it. I don't think less of them if they can't but I do think people should be polite. A lot of people say to me they're scared to talk to me while raiding but really I raid for fun, and talking to people for me is also fun.
      /hugs to my dear friend and thank you for the love too!

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  5. I'm sorry you had to experience that, Navi, you don't deserve to be treated like that, especially on Twitter. That person has a lot of balls to call you out in public like that; it's an effin' game, for Christ's sake.

    Don't let this discourage you from Navispamming others, you know you have a lot of support and people out there who love you and enjoy what you do!

    /bearhugs

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    1. Nothing can stop me when I put my mind to something Arv :) but ty for the kind words and for being an awesome friend. Navispam will go on!
      /treehugs back

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  6. Man that guy was a jerk even accepting the apology.

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  7. Sorry you had to endure that. :( But yeah... it kinda sucks that there are more and more people with short tempers out there playing nowadays.

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    1. Thanks Quelynn :) It does suck but hopefully they will stop when they realise they upset people. One can only hope.

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  8. That person doesn't need to be vilified by any of us, they did that themself. Unfortunately there are too many people like this that play our wonderful game. I'd like to think though that people like you Navi, are the ones that balance it out.

    What he/she said to you in game was bad enough, but to start something on twitter too... That is just low. I don't care how bad their day was, nobody has a right to talk to our sweet Navi like that!

    Keep your head up, don't let this one jerkwad get to you. You did nothing wrong. We love you Navi! /bighugs!!!!

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    1. Thank you Euphy! Thank goodness that person doesn't read my blog. I have no idea what I would say to them if I had to face them again. Probably nothing. I love you too Euphy!

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  9. Hmmm. I look forward to seeing whether a) he mentions this series of events publicly and b) what he says as a result. Catching people when otherwise occupied like this can be a hit and miss affair, after all.

    Needless to say, I am interested to see how this pans out.

    I will also say the following: you are not an idiot, you have nothing to be worried, concerned or ashamed of, and I sincerely hope that this does not dissuade you from continuing with the Navispam. I can only suggest that you DM/email the person beforehand to make sure you catch them at a convenient time :D

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    1. You see, that's why I have no qualms about sending tells in raid. If I just stood around waiting for things to happen I wouldn't get anywhere. If they are busy they ignore me, and I'm ok with that. But maybe, they're like me and can talk after a wipe.

      Not everyone is as awesome and welcoming as you Godmother :) Meeting you was such an awesome experience.

      From now, I am only going to Navispam people who know me, and visit me. Easier that way.

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  10. /hugs

    I promise I'll be nice when you come visit me, even though I'm an evil Gnome.

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    1. An evil SPITTING gnome. Lucky I'm not going there on a horde toon :)

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  11. Oh, Navi! :( I'm so sorry that happened to you! *hughughug*

    I still stand by what I told you when you were kind enough to come by and visit me -- Your enthusiasm and open friendliness to everyone is truly admirable and inspiring...especially for usually shy people like me! You have so much courage and good intention for going and making for a very happy and fun time while meeting everybody. In no way were you ever an idiot or stupid for wanting to share your happiness with others.

    That particular person (and those with similar attitudes) is the kind who have put a damper on the fun aspects of the game nowadays. For me personally, it's part of why I spend so much less time online lately. When you came to visit, it reminded me of all the fun things in-game and of what made me love WoW in the first place! It was such a nice and hopeful feeling, especially as we transition into a new, upcoming expansion.

    Perhaps that particular person had a bad day or outlying issues, as you suggested. But looking through Twitter and even at their response to your apology, the rudeness was still unnecessary. I found his or her response to your apology laughable and arrogant, really. I have a joke with my best friend (recently started playing) as she is often dead quiet for twenty minutes while questing and killing things because she is "concentrating really hard." I guess said person was just like that...haven't gotten to the point of multitasking yet. :P

    Keep up the nice work with the visits and pic spams, Navi! The amount of joy you bring to your friends is so much more than the bad stuff. :)

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    1. /massive hugs to Ninevi
      I am happy that you loved your spam because I loved doing it! Meeting inspirational people is rewarding and exciting for me, and you certainly are one of those people my alliance twin!
      Navispams will not stop. I still have so many more people to visit! I'm glad that you don't think I'm being a horrid intrusion into people's lives /hug

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  12. This world would be a lot happier if people would just be nice instead of being pissed off all the time. It would have been just as easy for him to leave it at "I'm sorry, I can't talk right now I'm tanking," then to have a whole rude conversation and then vent about it on Twitter. And you're right, he could have been having a bad day, but I wish people wouldn't take their crap out on someone else, especially someone they don't know.

    I'm glad you're not going to let this stop you from doing this series. It's be really fun to see all the pictures and read the stories. After all, WoW is at it's best when it shows how human connections can be made through a silly online game. This series exemplifies that and you should be proud of it.

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    1. Faye, you keep commenting like that and making me feel all warm and fuzzy and I will come and Navispam you next! :D

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  13. Reading this, it occured to me this isn't necessarily a game issue, but again, a social media issue. People forget constantly that these are REAL PEOPLE on Twitter, not some anonymous person. I wish everyone would have to read a social media manual about how to behave, simple as that. No raging. What Faye said mirrors my sentiments, too. In fact, what everyone said mirrors my feelings.


    You make this world a better place - don't let one splinter slow you down. ((((((BIG HUG))))))))

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    1. Omg that is one big hug! Thank you Matty. You always know the right thing to say.

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  14. That person sounds like a real charmer. I can just picture the holes in their wall and furniture from when the phone or doorbell ring and they're in an instance.

    It's pretty basic, don't expect a conversation when the other person is in an instance/bg/raid. But nothing wrong with leaving a little tell as long as you don't pester them with a stream of messages on why they're not replying. Seems like you were pretty non-intrusive.

    On the other hand, this person was extremely rude to you in game. And taking it to twitter over something so trivial makes them look like an asshat. Heck, they're the poster child for the bad stereotype of MMO players - socially inept nerdragers that no one wants to occupy the same physical space with.

    Look on the bright side, this little encounter showed you what a waste of time this person is before you actually spent any effort writing about them.

    I'm sorry you feel bad about this but honestly, this person isn't worth a second thought from someone as warm and friendly as you. They can go on theorycrafting about numbers but they may as well play WoW inside Excel for all the social interaction they seem capable of. What an asshat.

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    1. Thanks thunder. If only everyone responded as positively as you did when I gI've my well rehearsed opening greeting lines then I would be a happy druid all the time :-)

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  15. Well, I'm sorry things went the way they did. I know Nym feels really bad about it. Well, hopefully you got my realID DM; just poke me when it's convenient and I'll pop on over :) None of that faffing about with other peeps.

    Thanks for the kind words on the bloggy stuff. FYI, the annotations on my blog are a WordPress plugin called "Footnotes". It's one of the main reasons I'm not on WP-free or Blogspot anymore, because neither offers that as a feature. Without it, at times, I'd lose the thought in all the asides that come up in my head. So that really helps strip the extraneous crap from what I'm actually trying to say. Also: incidental snark!

    Do you like dubstep? I can maybe get Skrillex to do a remix of my intro loop for variety. :D

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    1. You are a bad, bad dorf for threatening her with dubstep, never mind Skrillex. Geez. I oughta make you sleep on the couch.

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    2. There are no hard feelings I have moved on and learned my lessons. Besides it hasn't stopped me wanting to drop by and visit. A guild full of bloggers? Highly recommended by many of my friends? I must go and read them and take pics of them so I will never forget them.

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  16. There is no doubt in my mind that tanking is tough. I tanked back in burning crusade and grit my teeth through all of karazhan more than once. Still, there is always time to type ' just a min, busy!'

    There is no way to tell from the/who whether a tank type is actually tanking when you find them, is there? You did everything right.i day phooey on that one!

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    1. Agreed. I tank ALL the time when I PvE. You know what happens when I am stressed or really in the zone? I don't even REALIZE I got whispered until after the fight and I see the little glow on my "tells" tab in chat.

      This person was a mean spirited little jerk and the reaction was in no way proportional to Navi's "transgression" of actually saying "Hi!" to someone in an instance.

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    2. That happens to me too - if I am busy I don't see tells. And nobody minds or gets upset if I ignore them when I'm busy. Besides I know from experience that the opportunities to meet people are limited and if I send a tell and find the person I am looking for is on an alt I can immediately go elsewhere to look for them. Opportunity sometimes only knocks once... have to try my luck.

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  17. Ugh. I'm sorry, I get that some things (raids etc) take more attention but there's no cause to be rude to people. All it takes is one message, "Sorry, I can't type right now because I'm tanking!" Message received. There was no call for that. Besides, what you are doing is fun, I don't know who wouldn't be flattered to have someone visit expressly to meet them. I know you weren't there to meet THAT person specifically but even so - your mission is one of peace and goodwill. I'm glad you're feeling better. I get really upset when people are mean, it probably would've had me sniffly too!

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    1. I never pick you as the soft sniffly type Vidyala. The romantic type yes! Thank you for dropping by and for your understanding.

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  18. Nowhere in the world is the treatment you received acceptable, nor should it be overlooked. If it were someone in my guild doing this, I would not stand idly by while someone sharing a tag with me ripped into someone else for asking a simple question. It reflects badly on my guild, reflects badly on some of my closest friends, and reflects badly on me. Completely unacceptable.

    Navi, you're a saint. Probably too good for this world, but it is what we make it. If anything, you've restored a little of my faith in humanity. I'm glad that people like you exist. Keep being awesome. ^_^

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    1. Aww Pixelated, thank you for the sentiment, but I am no saint. I just like to be nice to people because I want EVERY person to feel valued. Because everyone is special in some way and if I can help them feel happy, then I will. Thank you for visiting my blog and the lovely compliments.

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  19. You keep that chin up, my dear. Don't waste another moment of your time on that woman! /hug

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  20. Way too late for the "no retaliation" thing, sweetheart. I've been feeling it left and right. Thanks.

    Was I rude in my response? Yes.

    Did I swear? No.

    Did you take six lines of dialogue to get through to what you wanted to say? Yes. The conversation you posted here and the conversation that took place wasn't NEARLY that short.

    If you'd like some credibility, post the chat log screenshots of what happened. I mean, seriously. Who on earth says "I'm doing taking serial dungeons atm."

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    1. My apologies it was tanking serial dungeons atm. I should proofread more.
      If I misinterpreted your response icedragon I am sorry.
      What's done is done. Its in the past and I will not speak of it any further except to reply all my readers comments and hope lessons have been learned on both our parts.

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    2. "My apologies it was tanking serial dungeons atm"

      No, it wasn't. "I'm chain-running dungeons atm" is what I said. You also left out the line where you remarked I was the only person online in my guild, followed by my question of "So what?"

      You slandered me publicly with a horribly botched personal interpretation of the chat after we apologized to one another on Twitter yesterday. That's a pretty awful thing to do. And then to bait people to trash me all day with a blog post? Ouch.

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    3. Hey cockwad, back off. She said she was sorry. She's clearly (and incorrectly) taking all the blame for this encounter. Before I read these comments I was like, "Hey, wow, that was unlucky. Got caught on a bad day but I'm sure they made up. No biggie."

      Then I read your comments.

      Fire. You. Jump in it. Way to keep beating on a pretty nice lady, internet tough guy.

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    4. Icedragon: The more you post, the more you pretty much justify everything that's been said here.

      Just stop talking. Now.

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  21. A good thing coming from this: I'm now reading your blog and following you on Twitter because I could use more nice people in my life, even if it's at a blog's-reach distance.

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    1. From someone with a beautiful name like Charity, I want to thank you for the follow and for reading my humble blog. You have humbled me indeed. :) Omg squeeeeee!

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  22. Hello, I know of the person you're speaking of. And in fact I was in group with the individual at the time.

    First you have to understand, none of us knew who you were. I don't follow your blog, and as such I know nothing about you and all your fans. Neither does that person.

    I don't want to be insensitive to your situation, but you're presenting context without the actual chat dialog screenshot. So this is your version of the conversation. If you have a log of that, I suggest you go back and find it. you may find it a little different than how you saw it go down.

    Also, this person apologized to you. Your public portrayal of this conversation is putting her in a very difficult situation. Perhaps if you had issue with her, you could have talked it out first instead of creating this situation where GM's are now involved, and a persons feelings are now hurt as well.

    I understand everyone commenting on this post trying to defend you. But they weren't there, they don't know this person. Just like she didn't know you. And now because of your actions, things have gone from a simple misunderstanding, to a complete bashing of this persons character.

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    1. oh and you need to take responsibility for what you've posted, you can't just say all this. Then leave it be for everyone to think the other person is so terrible.

      either post again with a clearer explanation, or retract your post.

      Also, I suggest you talk to this person, more. She's a great friend of mine. And if you knew her like I do, you would never say such bad things about her

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    2. I believe Ice was the one to bring it outside the game... to twitter.

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    3. Having had first hand of the person concerned, and their attitude towards people with whom they disagree, I don't think Nav's opinion is that far off. It is a perception issue after all.

      Being polite and respectful, even if it is a random person, is not hard.

      The person concerned seems particularly unapologetic at this point, if their Twitter feed is any indicator. This is particularly galling considering their GM has publicly apologised on their behalf.

      You're right, we don't know this person, but you don't know Navi. There are two sides to every argument. I would have said the best thing to have done here was not to react as they have. The two messages on their Twitter feed remain as testament to their initial reaction, and that is what I have responded to.

      The damage is done. Sometimes it doesn't matter how you start a fight, but how you end it.

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    4. Sorry, even with the 'corrections' your friend posted, there's still no way of redeeming this. Navi posted a blog about how she was mortified and embarrassed about possibly making someone else mad. She took all the blame. And your friend decided to 1) be rude, 2) rampage on her twitter, 3) come here and comment like a douche. Sorry, champ, but your friend is a Grade-A buttwipe.

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    5. true, and she has apologized for that, but navi has let all these comments and other blogs grow out of proportion without the exact context of the conversation.

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    6. I don't need "exact context" to recognize this awesome level of asshattery. The Twitter response alone tells me everything I need to know.

      Just admit you're all in the wrong here.

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    7. In addition to that pointed out above, the Twitter "apology" was full of asshattery and arrogance in itself. All of the relating tweets were snide and dripping in desire for more drama themselves - far from anything even suggested here in Navi's post.

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  23. Came over here from Big Bear Butt, just to say I really don't see why *you're* apologizing.

    Sorry, but I'm gonna vilify him. This guy is a douchecanoe, plain and simple. If this had been in *my* guild, instant /gkick, no chance for appeal. To go off like that in game is one thing; to drag it out of game and into the larger social space is beyond the pale of sane, rational behavior.

    WoW needs more people like you, less people like this toolbag.

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  24. There is delicious irony in anonymous trolls taking others to task on the subject of accountability.

    Especially trying to hold Navi accountable for what is posted in comments and elsewhere.

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    1. im not trying to troll. i have been very civil actually. I just dont want my name in this. hence the anon title.

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    2. Which instantly renders your comment pointless. If you don't want to put your name to it, you don't really believe what your saying.

      Notice how, if I wasn't going for the 10-tonne irony award, this post would just be an idiotic, unsigned bit of nonsense.

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  25. I'm reading your post, and whether you were "bothering" the other person or not, I don't think it's right of them to be rude, or even worse - complaining about it on Twitter. It's fine for people to be busy and not have time to chat... But why not just say so? If I get whispered while I'm tanking/healing I usually just reply letting them know I can't talk at the moment. No need to go any further than that.

    Reading through your post I can also recognise a bit of myself in there. For about as long as I can remember I've always had this irrational fear of people not wanting to have me around. It's something I always worry about.. and like you, I'd be absolutely devastated if someone spoke to me like that.

    In the end, I don't think you did anything wrong. If someone doesn't want to chat while in a dungeon or whatever, it's quite easy to just say so without lashing out.

    Look forward to seeing more Navispamming! :)

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    1. Saga! It is an honour to have you visit even if it's at a not so excellent time. I love warlocks :D
      Just to be clear, the talking in the dungeon was rude but it was not upsetting, more embarrassing because I can understand people are busy. It was more the twitter that was mortifying which resulted in my ah... meltdown.

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  26. Oh, my poor, dear Navi. ((hug))

    I am so sorry that the blogwar gremlin has decided to visit you. I think you've been handling this all very well, and I'm glad that you haven't let this incident of rudeness dissuade you from continuing to visit people you like.

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    1. /hug Kam
      I thought I told you to skip this post...

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  27. Ahhhhh /hug.

    You are wonderful, Navi.

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    1. Clumsygrrrrrl (whoops too many r's?) hugs to you too. Thank you for the compliment :) Not feeling it, but love the sentiment.

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  28. I would love to RAR at this guy myself for being rude, but it seems he doesn't care so... *bakes you a giant batch of chocolate chip e-cookies instead* Sometimes people just suck, so /ignore them right back, nom some imaginary cookies, and keep on Navispamming! :D

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    1. Martha you know just what I need to hit the spot /nom nom

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  29. Navi, I don't know you. You seem like a decent person.
    Icedragon, I don't know you either. You seem like a d-bag.
    Those two perceptions may be totally false but perception is all that I have on the internet. So, I would advise that if you don't want to be perceived as a d-bag on the internet, then do everything that you can do to not act like a d-bag on the internet.

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  30. I happen to love internet d-bags! Great with ketchup and a teaspoon of marbles.

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  31. Navi,

    *hugs* girlfriend!

    I just commented on BBB's post, thanking him for writing that, because it calms me down a lil knowing someone stepped forward. Then, I shared this information with Laz, and he totally gave me full permission to go all Effing Effy on this azzhat! We are both absolutely irate that someone could be so awful to one of our favorite people.

    You are a wonderful, kind, infectiously friendly person, and the biggest reason I am even still connected to the WoW blogosphere at the moment.

    DO NOT let this jackazz, waste of breath change any of your blogging, Twittering, or Navispamming.

    People love ya, doll. Keep at it. <3

    ~ Effy

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    1. Thank you for being you Effy, the stronge brave impetuous redheaded draenei! You know I love you dearly, and nothing can make me stop doing what I want to do - Navispams will go on!

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  32. Oh goodness. I'm sorry the comments have blown up. I wanted to come and tell you that you know I'll always think you're great, and if you're outta line I'll let you know :P I'm sure you'd respond with grace anyway.

    99% of the time, I'm like you and terrified of conflict. Something like this would definitely upset me, and I hope that talking about it helped to put it in perspective for you. On a bad day, though, I wonder if I wouldn't be the person getting snarky about disturbing me in my warcraft activities. D: Hopefully not!

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    1. Everyone has bad days. And I'm glad you'll drag me back in line by my ear if I'm being a turd. I will hold you to that you know.

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  33. Posting in support of Navi!

    Free /hug included! =)

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  34. Navi,

    You did wrong. You know this. You made a mistake, you apologised for it, and you learned from it. This is why you are such a great person!

    Taking responsibility for your own behaviour and actions is one thing, but trying to take responsibility for the behaviour and actions of others is dangerous for your sanity and mental well-being. Although I am saddened and kinda irate that such rude behaviour was aimed at you, you in no way caused it or deserved it. Your appeals to those of us who love you and your passion to not call this person out for their behaviour is laudable but unfortunately you don't get to make that decision for us.

    Having said that, I hope that the responses to this person are restricted to shaming them for that particular piece of dickery rather than attacking their whole character.

    My take on it all? As soon as they publicly insulted you on Twitter, they lost any and all respect from me. End of story. There is no excuse for that kind of behaviour in a public forum.

    I am glad that you are feeling confident in yourself again, I look forward to reading more of your wonderfully enthusiastic posts! As Kael'thas was fond of saying, it was merely a setback!

    -Dahakha

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    1. This is the absolute best way I could have put it as well. Mistakes are mistakes. It doesn't matter if you didn't fully and meticulously detail the conversation in your post. The comments the person made on Twitter, and subsequently here, illustrate a much more accurate picture than your explanation of the situation ever could Navimie.

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    2. <3 Dahakha and JD
      I'm going to just quote my 2 favourite lines from Batman Begins:
      "Why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up."
      "It's not who I am underneath, but what I *do* that defines me."

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  35. Coming here from BBB to offer my support. There's no excuse for the douchebaggery you received. If the person was that bothered by a random whisper looking for someone in their guild, they could have ignored you from the getgo. They didn't need to be a doucherocket in response, and taking it to Twitter to whine was just a whole new level of douchery.

    There is no justifying that, and anyone trying to needs to promptly remove their head from their ass.

    Seriously. As BBB said, how would you feel if you'd whispered that kind of shit to his 9 year old son?

    Glad that clown is not on my server or even my faction.

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  36. Just to put up a word of support for you, Navi. You are awesome!

    Z

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  37. I'm sure this has gone on longer than expected, but I have to throw my 2 cents in...sorry.

    I do not know either party involved, so there will be no favoritism from me. I would, however, like to say that the fact that someone got so bent out of shape over something that had taken up such a short amount of their time is just jaw dropping. There is no reason a simple "Hey all I need a min" from Ice to the group he/she was in, to find out what Navi wanted, could have been done. At most it could have taken 30-45 seconds to see what Navi wanted and to reply. Then, Ice could have been right back at tanking...no harm, no foul.

    What really gets my goat is the fact that Ice had alt-tabbed out of the game to make a post on Twitter about it in the time it took Navi to switch from one toon to another. ????

    Ok, lemme get this straight...you were pissed that you got interrupted while "chain-running dungeons" that you then had to interrupt yourself from your "chain-running" to go tweet about getting interrupted in the first place???? And to call Navi a "DIPSHIT" to boot? And to post her name in your tweet? And then come here whining about Navi slandering you when she didn't even post your name here? /shakes head

    Hey, I know what it's like to get in the zone of tanking...but really...that was TOTALLY uncalled for. Navi, I'm sorry you have had an experience like this.

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    1. her name wasnt posted in the tweet, she wasnt even mentioned until the person apologized to navi. which most people here seem to be forgetting,

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    2. If you scroll back up to the topic you will see two small images of the tweets that were immediately posted after the "whisper incident". In the second one you will see Navi's name. Please, tell me again how Navi's name wasn't mentioned until the apology.

      I can understand the fact that Ice gets bombarded from level 1s wanting to comment or bash on his/her blog. But, the fact is, Ice did something that was extremely uncalled for by tweeting what he/she did. Even after the fact that he/she knew that Navi was looking for his/her guildmates and wasn't there to comment or bash on his/her blog. Had Ice trashed some level 1 scrub that was bashing his/her blog this would not have gotten as far as it has. (except for maybe more bashing towards the scrub) But he/she didn't. That is what has everyone so upset...that such a harsh reaction happened because of such a simple thing as whispering someone, heaven-forbid, during a (gasp) dungeon run.

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    3. Thank you Thelandira for the support :) However I wasn't that upset by being yelled at for talking in the dungeon. It happens, and as I said, they could have been having a really bad run full of poor players (though I pity them if my accuser was angry ><) and so me whispering and being a pest whilst trying hard to explain what I was doing could be seen as annoying. However, it was the Twitter which was very upsetting - and it was mortifying because my name WAS in it. Icedragon didn't know that I follow her, nor that she followed me also, so she didn't put the @ in front of my name.

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  38. it still makes me sad that Navi is allowing the bashing of a person who most of you dont even know. she apologized, TWICE now.

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    1. Yeah.....reluctantly. Grudgingly. After laughing it off. Forgive me if I don't sympathise with her.

      Also, nice work trying to blame Navi for our responses. It makes me sad to see how little you get the point of the outcry.

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    2. the outcry is over a misunderstanding, that didnt need to get this big. i understand her feelings, shes shy and socialy akward, but everyone commenting is bashing a person for something they werent there for.

      first, she paraphrased the conversation in game, yes the tweets were uncalled for. and she apologized for that. it should have ended there.

      instead, there has be a very public bashing of a person who didnt mean any harm. she was just caught off guard and acted on impulse.

      what you dont know is this person deals with trolls on a daily basis. they find her in game on lvl 1 toons and berate her over her posts.

      but you dont want to hear that. everyone here would rather rally to the cause of ousting the terrible person. which she is not. i know her, she's one of the nicest people i know. sure she is hard to approach, but knowing her it hurts me to see everyone say such hurtful things.

      She has been called the most horrible things in this post and BBB's, and all she did was call poor helpless navi a bad word (which she apologized for)

      the terrible people are all you "white knights" trying to make someone feel better by saying these hurtful things.

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    3. The outcry is 99% over the tweets which insulted Navi. I'd be interested to see how calling someone a dipshit and a damn fool in a public forum can be misunderstood. Also, since the outcry is mostly about the offending tweets, everyone commenting *was* there, because they can go and read it for themselves.

      If it is hurtful to hear that you did something unacceptable and should be ashamed of yourself for your behaviour, then I guess that yes, we are saying hurtful things. Deal with it. Learn from it. You will become a better person.



      Sorry Navi, I will not pollute your blog with any more of this conflict......

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    4. navi was called a dipshit, the other person has been called, and im just picking some of the good ones.

      douche cannoe, 3 cock garrage (this one made us laugh), a buttwhipe, dog shit, asshat, worthless sack of shit.

      how does this even out the score. can it be evened out. everyone here is all up in arms about this whole issue, which btw, navi has forgiven the person over. with that it should be done.

      so all im asking is, stop trying to berate this person. fine if you want to give your support to navi. im sure she could use it. but bringing someone down you dont know over something you werent there for. fuck you

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  39. Navi, you are one of the kindest and sweetest WoW bloggers I have never met. You didn't deserve this, so please don't ever think of yourself as the one to blame in this kind of situation. I understand you want to see the best in everyone, but don't let yourself be stomped upon. This guy was rude, ridiculous, and out of line. Keep your chin up and stay happy :)

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    1. Cuppy, I think this is the first time you have come out and posted on my blog, even though we have so many friends in common :) Thank you (and I did giggle at the "I have never met") and I haven't really been stomped upon - I got up again :)

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  40. I didn't know you until today, because of the post BBB posted, so in no way can I attest to the type of person that you are. However, I can say that the reaction this person had to you was uncalled for. There is nothing that justifies acting like that toward another person. I don't have a huge following. I also don't troll the noobie forums. But every now and again, randomly, someone will recognize me in game. And it freaks me out. But have I ever acted this way? Never. Nor would I ever.

    The thing that bugs the hell out of me is that the people defending her refuse to out themselves, for some reason or another. There is nothing defendable about the behavior. That she would come here, admit to what she did, and then continue to have a piss-poor, holier-than-thou attitude. I never had any direct issues with her, and truthfully, I used to like her a lot. But one day that all changed. My reasons are completely unrelated to your reasons, but I've watched her treat people badly for months, going on years. She'll belittle and talk down to people. And the thing I don't understand is why people continue to defend her when she acts so poorly? There's always an excuse, or reason, that people come up with as to WHY it's okay to treat others this way.

    There is never an okay time to treat another human being like crap. Ever. Especially when it's something as simple as a couple of whispers in a game. If the outburst fit the crime, then sure. But what you did and what you asked wasn't a big deal. They overreacted. They acted a fool.

    For once I really hope that the blind followers finally start to see her for the terrible person she really is. Cause she's not very nice. And she's certainly not sweet.

    You, on the otherhand, seem very nice. Good luck with Navispam. Aesadonna is a guildie and I <3 her very much, so I'm happy to see her name up there. I'm not surprised in the least that she was nice to you either.

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    1. LOL Hestiah, thank you for visiting me! Don't feel embarrassed but even though you don't know me, I know you. I have even spoken to you on twitter a number of times :) But twitter is a big place and not everybody is blessed with a memory like mine. Thank you for the lovely compliments and yes, Aesadonna I know is your guildie, and I had earmarked a lot of Undying Resolution people to visit and perhaps I shall meet you in person when I go back there again :)

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  41. Hey, I too am here via BBB.

    And I am really honestly horrified by Ice's response to you. Even IF you did indeed take 6 messages to get around to your point, even IF she was busy tanking and was having a bad day and so forth etc... there was no call for that.

    I'm upset, for you person I do not know but now want to based on your friends (because people BBB likes tend to be people I like, too), and I'm upset because Ice was among the first bloggers in the WoW community to give me a good welcome (Rades and Vidyala were the others I recall vividly). She was friendly and helpful and taught me how to make macros! And at the same time, her response to this entire thing... doesn't surprise me at all.

    I miss the Ice I met when I started blogging.

    But that aside, I think your Navispams are adorable! I'm a former Effer, and my main is still on the server if not the guild - I had some good times with them. :3

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    1. Ah Apple :) Another person who is too famous to remember us small time bloggers! Thank you for support and all the kind words during this unfortunate incident. You have visited me before commenting on a post that I wrote about you, because you have written some inspiring and courageous words in the past, and that the amazingly strong Apple has come back again to visit me makes me feel all warm inside :) Thank you :)

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  42. I was supposed to post this yesterday but my computer crashed at some point while I was typing the comment.

    I am not looking to add to the drama (in fact I found out what happened purely by accident when I saw Icedragon's tweets and decided to check your blog), I just want to say; please try to not feel bad about it but also don't justify the way s/he acted. I feel we can all learn a lesson from this; think before you post as what happens on the internet, stays on the internet! (Especially if it's directed at a blogger who's known to be kind, and has an enormous loyal posse of readers *wink*)

    Glad to see this won't stop you from Navispamming, which I think is such a lovely initiative (and from the couple of months I've been reading your blog, dare I say, totally in your style) - I'd be both honored and delighted should you ever stop by on my realm, even if it was for just a minute!

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    1. You hit the nail on the head Toki! Thanks heaps for the lovely words, and don't you worry Toki, I will be dropping to visit you some time soon :) Nothing can stop Navispam!

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  43. Just found your blog through BigBearButt.. Have to say your the nicest person ever. If a person can't stand a quick little whisper in a dungeon then they have the problem not you. Like I said your way too nice. Been enjoying reading your Navispams even if I do not know too many of the people. I hope you keep it up.

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    1. Dear Sir, nicest person ever is a really hefty compliment, I thank you, but it is undeserved. I am plenty nasty when I have to be /wink
      Glad you enjoy the Navispams there are many more to come!

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  44. A very late but still relevant /hug for you.

    You seem a very kind and mature person to be able to forgive and move on, and I respect that. I am very sorry that you had to have such a terrible experience, but it seems you are doing all right and all is well.

    I don't think anything about the behavior shown to you was justifiable, and I am saddened and disappointed. This is someone who is supposed to be helpful and kind to new players and instead she treated a random person horribly, using profanity towards you and then posting about it on Twitter for everyone else to share in her disgust with you. What if you had been a new player who needed help? You might never want to play this game again if that's the kind of behavior you can expect.

    I wouldn't treat a stranger in real life like that if they came up and asked me some polite, innocuous questions, so I cannot fathom why it would be any more acceptable in an online setting. Blunt and "short" is not an excuse for rude behavior.

    Still, I am glad everything is resolved. Your blog looks really cute and I will follow it. I hope to get back into blogging myself with Mists of Pandaria on the horizon. :) I look forward to seeing more what you have to offer!

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    1. Ty for your comment, lovely sentiments and your follow Cerylia! I get excited with a new reader and I'm sorry it's at this not so joyous time. I also would not treat a stranger that way but hopefully a lesson has been learned from this sordid affair.

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  45. I'm way behind on blog reading and I'm like the only person not on twitter so a bit late, but just wanted to say I'm sorry this happened to you. Catching up on all of it just makes me sad all around. Anyways /hugs

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    1. /hugs Keredria No need to be sad my fellow tree! It's all over, I'm happy now, so you should be happy now too :)

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  46. "Fall down 5 times, get up 6." It wouldn't be real if there wasn't a chance that someone would react badly to what you're doing. The important thing is to remember the reasons why you're doing what you're doing, and reaffirm to yourself that they matter more than the risk that someone might get the wrong impression.

    In my work, I risk giving a bad impression to a stranger daily. But it's more important to me to give a good impression to someone than to not risk giving a bad one, if that makes sense. It's kinda like: don't decide to not build a house just because it might fall down in an earthquake.

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    1. Wise words Verilazic. There is always the chance and I just hope for the best, but I do try to avoid it as much as possible if able. As I said before, if I was faced with that same scenario again? Would I send a whisper? Yes I would. And I would be polite. And hope they weren't rude back.

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  47. Hey .. came here, like a few I guess, from the awesome BBB.

    I can understand how "the other guy/gal" could have simply been having a bad day and reacted badly. We all have them. Personally, if I'm in an instance and get a whisper at the wrong time, I'll send a quick reply (usually horribly mis-spelt because I can't type and move/heal/dps etc at the same time) saying "hold on", or "just a mo" - or sometimes I just end up jumping up and down on the spot, open my character screen, the pvp screen, jump up and down a bit .. until I realise I forgot to open my chat window first :P (bit like putting the windscreen wipers on instead of beeping my horn in the car :P)

    If this particular person is "used" to getting random messages from low level trolls, then I would suggest they either invest in an addon that automatically screens out tells from low levels (most people who make a new toon JUST to bash someone really can't be bothered spending the time to level said toon a little bit to do so) or simply create a standard macro that they could use when they're busy.

    Blizzard even have an in-built "Do not disturb" sign .. it's not complicated to turn on. If you can't cope with whispers whilst in instances, turn the DND sign on!

    I have to say, Ice hasn't helped themselves much in their defence:

    "You also left out the line where you remarked I was the only person online in my guild, followed by my question of "So what?""

    Coming back with "so what?" is rather passive-aggressive in itself - I don't think it did anything to support their case that they were defending themselves from a possible troll who was apparently "chain whispering" them. In fact, the fact that you brought up the guild suggested you weren't a troll there for a bit of specific blog bashing.

    Personally, when I whisper someone unknown, I always say "hi, can i talk to you for a moment please?" or something similar and then I would probably have simply said what I needed as succinctly as possible "I'm looking for X in your guild, but you're the only one I can see online atm, can you help?" - although looking at their reaction, I don't think it would have mattered WHAT you said, or how. They either ALWAYS speak to people like that, or they were having a bad day so whatever you said that day it would have made no difference.

    Giving Ice the benefit of the doubt .. perhaps they simply reacted badly at the time and regret it horribly now. They could be watching all the fallout for this and feeling awful. Admittedly their response up to now hasn't born that out, but then, they have had some pretty damning responses from random people too. Perhaps if Ice is feeling badly for how they responded he/she could simply speak to you in private, if they don't feel they can do it publicly. At the very least, if Ice is a decent enough person normally, this response will have taught them a lesson in how to deal with others.

    Don't get me wrong by the way .. I'm not supporting the way Ice reacted .. just trying to understand why they would have. I'm one of those people who always assume everyone is a nice person, and that I must have misunderstood, at least the first time, when they prove otherwise :P

    I do feel for you, and I know it can feel horrible when something like this happens - all I can suggest is that you go find a puppy or kitten to hug for a bit, then forget about it. It wasn't you. It was them :-)

    At the end of the day, if everyone online treated people as they would if they met face to face on the street, then encounters would no doubt generally be a lot more friendly. :P

    *hands Navi a cookie*

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    2. Hey Sprowt, thanks for visiting.. and for the wall of text LOL! The whole thing is resolved now, Ice and I have forgiven each other and amiable and it's all good.
      I actually have a standard opening line for talking to strange people since I do a lot of Navispam, and it was a little different for Ice because she and I were following each other on Twitter so i "assumed" she knew me, but she did not even though I knew her. But you know how twitter is there are so many people on it.
      Thanks for the cookie :)

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    3. Good to hear. As for the wall of text .. I've obviously been reading BBB for too long - he's a bad influence on me :P

      On the plus side .. a bit behind the times but we've only just started trying to do heroic DS and I've been struggling to heal Yor on my druid - and as a result of Bear's post, I've now found your post about it, and looking forward to having a try next time - I hadn't realised that some/most of my HoT spells could still be used, so that makes it waaaaay easier :P

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    4. I hope it helps! That post is the smartest post I've ever written I think :D

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  48. Hi Navi,

    I know this is a bit late in coming to you, having seen this in BBB's archives, but I just wanted to compliment you in what you've done for the game in your own little way. I think that spreading cheer to others is an admirable thing, and I'm glad to see that this experience didn't tarnish it for you. This game is about fun, and I think that talking with someone as cheerful as you seem, even briefly, would bring a smile to my face, and judging by the responses here, many others' faces, too. Not enough random acts of kindness in this world.

    I'm not on an Oceanic server, being in the US, but I'd love to be Navispammed. I have a blog, though I haven't written on it in ages, but feel free to Navispam me there. I'd really be honored.

    Keep up the good writing, and keep on spreading your cheer.

    My 2 yen for Navi,

    Akiosama

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    1. Akiosama :) Thank you for visiting, your kind words and your support! With a new expansion I haven't had the time to go visiting people but when life has calmed down again I will be wandering around. I went to visit your blog... but it hasn't been updated for AGES!! :D

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