tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post7278155513255383807..comments2024-02-25T11:19:44.035+11:00Comments on The Daily Frostwolf - Druid Edition: Not smarter than your average bear - an #MMONBI postUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-53879558449877819992012-06-04T15:32:29.888+10:002012-06-04T15:32:29.888+10:00@Khuruuk - OMG thank you for visiting! It's g...@Khuruuk - OMG thank you for visiting! It's great to have a real bear tank (and blogging one at that!) come visit and give me advice when I'm being totally spazz trying to understand things. I will be on your site constantly when I learn it for Mists :)Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-31062553939817180902012-06-04T14:35:11.285+10:002012-06-04T14:35:11.285+10:00FR is genuinely Frenzied Regeneration. It does se...FR is genuinely Frenzied Regeneration. It does seem like nonsense in that sentence, which is the point Arielle (I think it was him) is making. If you can get enough rage to support Savage Defense (SD) and Frenzied Regeneration (FR) up every time you can (100% uptime), then basically you're too overpowered.<br /><br />The point of the Active Mitigation model is to make you push buttons to survive. By making it be maintenance of two buffs (SD & FR), it's not a "fun" way to tank yet for Bears... especially if you can keep them up 100% of the time anyway - then you're Rage Capped (meaning: you can't spend enough of the stuff, so that resource goes wasted). <br /><br />As a quick aside, in Cata we actually functioned as a two-resource class. Attacking (or being hit) would generate Rage (resource #1), which would pay for special abilities. Lacerate would cause a stacking debuff on the opponent (resource #2), which is where the 2nd resource comes in. That stack could be spent with Pulverize - which cranked up your crit chance (which meant more damage, and more Savage Defense procs!). <br /><br />When I learned bear tanking, I had never tanked before, ever. The biggest thing to know is never read out-of-date guides. Once upon a time Maul was a "make the next hit harder" self-buff, so you always hit it, now it's a rage-sink, something you push when you have too much rage. I was constantly out of rage, and couldn't hold aggro on anything because I was just doing the wrong stuff.<br /><br />Another big ticket item to know is that the default UI for aggro is useless. You need an add-on called Tidy Plates:Threat Plates. It gives you floating health bars over the mobs heads', which are color-coded (and re-sized) based on their aggro. The only thing to be cautious of there is that it doesn't really tell you what's CC'd, so don't go "pick up" the CC'd mobs, your PUGs will complain if you do that. A lot. I still do this all the time. :)<br /><br />The final thing to be aware of is that there are just too many abilities these days. You'll need at least two full action bars of buttons to push. It's absurd, especially when you read the three/four button rotations (or priorities) lists that are suggested behaviors. But hardly anyone mentions all the other little cooldown things to push, like Berserk (to theincbear.com's credit, they did explain this well to me). Put everything that doesn't change you out of bear on your bars, including your racial abilities. <br /><br />Anyway, great job taking on one of the strangest tanks in the game. Sunnier's blog is great, I'm a big fan of hers (especially the homemade art!). One of her posts explains bear tanking the best, by calling us "offensive tanks" - in Cata, to survive better, we hit the enemy harder. That's what I love most about bears. There's a cute little cartoon of a bear saying "#$%^&@!!!" to accompany it.<br /><br />Trying to learn bear tanking in the Beta is going to be tough, as nothing is tuned well yet - aggro is all over the place, and damage is pretty strange currently as well. If you're learning a class for the first time, be sure to do the polished version that's live.<br /><br />Great write-up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-34125811887846494332012-05-30T23:36:55.028+10:002012-05-30T23:36:55.028+10:00@battlechicken - TY! LOL at you going back to the ...@battlechicken - TY! LOL at you going back to the soft option. Great challenge!<br />@Toki - I am still scared though. And I'm not convinced it's FR because how can that be up all the time?Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-58565443755643693082012-05-30T22:45:58.440+10:002012-05-30T22:45:58.440+10:00You sure made a point out of it to do enough resea...You sure made a point out of it to do enough research! I don't like bear tanking, I find it too hard compared to the easy mode-pala and dk tanking where it's so evident to keep aggro. Don't worry about it though, just explain to people you are new to it and here to learn, so they keep that in mind.<br /><br />I think FR is Frenzied Regeneration, or that's the only bear skill I can think of.. But it doesn't make sense to me in that sentence - I've never even heard of a hard or soft "rage cap" (feel silly now!).Elliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746245357258596482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-37231111054850564182012-05-25T01:00:42.744+10:002012-05-25T01:00:42.744+10:00Hehe, awesome post, Navi! I taught myself bear tan...Hehe, awesome post, Navi! I taught myself bear tanking just like you did around the end of T11. I enjoyed it, but I hated being worried that I was going to be the one to cause the group to fail, so I went back to moonkintreecat. lol. <br /><br />Thanks for letting us in on your research process! :-D And good luck! I hope you'll update us!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-55911869772921513142012-05-24T23:56:01.375+10:002012-05-24T23:56:01.375+10:00@gnomegates - Ty for visiting! Change will be inte...@gnomegates - Ty for visiting! Change will be interesting, but not sure about the fun yet! Petrifying maybe!<br />@shortly - that is so sweet! I hope u have enough gold for repairs :) will let u know when I start!Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-24555231085819826132012-05-24T23:33:44.284+10:002012-05-24T23:33:44.284+10:00Hey, Navi - even though I normally play Alli side,...Hey, Navi - even though I normally play Alli side, I do have an 85 ret paladin Horde-side who is not heroic geared. If you want some help in terms of some DPS who promises not to laugh at you, hit me up. We'll need to connect for RealID, though. (Also, it hasn't been that long since I've been new to tanking. Heroics are SCARY.)Shorylhttp://tinywowguild.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-42068873618594977662012-05-24T23:33:38.989+10:002012-05-24T23:33:38.989+10:00Looks great, I have a druid heal/tank that I'v...Looks great, I have a druid heal/tank that I've played as a main for several years. Most your thoughts and research is spot on. Now I also know where to go to get prepared for MoP taking myself. Change can be fun!Gnomegateshttp://www.gnomegates.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-82380150576115957012012-05-24T17:41:47.612+10:002012-05-24T17:41:47.612+10:00@Roshii - meanies :)
@Tout - interestingly that...@Roshii - meanies :)<br />@Tout - interestingly that's not photoshopped! It's one of those flares and I stood on it. Thank you for the offer, and I will ask if I need, but I want to try and do it myself first and then ask when I get stuck :)Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-28724102837273931592012-05-24T17:02:16.200+10:002012-05-24T17:02:16.200+10:00Nice Photoshopping BEAR FART :D
Remember if you ...Nice Photoshopping BEAR FART :D<br /><br /><br />Remember if you ever need any tips or tricks, I'm happy to help in either general tanking or bear tanking :)Touthttp://www.frostwolves.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-10332046886121936902012-05-24T15:00:55.261+10:002012-05-24T15:00:55.261+10:00And remember to tank the boss from the front navi!...And remember to tank the boss from the front navi! Not the tail end of a dragon ;) -RoshiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com