tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post5435444608812402253..comments2024-02-25T11:19:44.035+11:00Comments on The Daily Frostwolf - Druid Edition: Thursday raiding - The first cull to 2 10 mansUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-18994280801024482652012-01-09T18:30:33.206+11:002012-01-09T18:30:33.206+11:00@ Fue
Thanks for clarifying the selection process ...@ Fue<br />Thanks for clarifying the selection process for the heroic team that was very helpful. <br />By the way, I wasnt calling team selection elitests. I was more referring to one person not happy cos the others in the raid have not done the fight successfully before (while all members have been thought to be able to perform adequately)<br />Having said that, I believe I am falsely accusing Gutsy (appologies) as I think he is unhappy at the balance of the two raids than having ppl still learning to be in his group.<br /><br />And Fue I understand your frustration at people who consistently underperform for their gear level. Culling is a necessary step for progression and I am just happy I am not the one that has to pick the team and say sorry to guys that just missed out. <br /><br />@ Gutsy<br />appologies to have you involved here especially with my comments <br /><br />KsretAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-70729331744604660682012-01-09T00:13:14.994+11:002012-01-09T00:13:14.994+11:00@Voe - :)
@Fue - Hey boss, thanks for dropping by....@Voe - :)<br />@Fue - Hey boss, thanks for dropping by.Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-92166511380344742442012-01-08T19:29:56.089+11:002012-01-08T19:29:56.089+11:00There is a difference between being overly elitist...There is a difference between being overly elitist, and having reasonable standards. For years we simply accepted people as they were, tried to help them improve, and just did our thing week after week, usually never beating the end content of a tier. Over time this has cost us a number of very talented (and likeable) players who just got fed up with people who weren't meeting the expectations of everyone else.<br /><br />Two examples here - at around 355 ilvl I was pulling 20-22k dps in my offspec in the first tier (which was pretty good at the time, the upper end of the guild were 22-25k). Now that we are in the final tier there are people who are barely this much damage.<br /><br />Second - Ultraxion is a very simple fight, and basically exists as a dps check. To pull their weight everyone needs to bring around 28k dps - we have no choice but to set this as the target for everyone to meet. Being shy 1-2k can be worked around easily enough, but some of the people we have been running with are doing less than 25k (or worse, dying on what is one of the simplest raid mechanics in the games history).<br /><br />We have given a remarkable amount of leeway to people who have been underperforming over the years, and even now everyone had 4+ weeks notice that this would be happening (loads of time to figure out why they are doing 20-40% less than others of their class/spec), but now that we want to press forward into heroics I simply can't justify bringing people who don't even meet the minimum standards for normal mode Ultraxion.<br /><br />Just like navi this isn't something I wanted to do, but the overwhelming majority of talented players (the ones we couldn't get anything done without) are well passed being patient with those who simply can't/wont lift their game to the minimum level we require.<br /><br />TLDR Version - It isn't elitism, its having some very reasonable standards we expect people to meet - and even then its probably one of the worst things I've had to do as a GM :(.<br /><br /><br /> - FueghanFueghannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-67822067926575458262012-01-07T22:22:59.885+11:002012-01-07T22:22:59.885+11:00Lol @ Targets comment
Voe (best resto shaman in f...Lol @ Targets comment<br /><br />Voe (best resto shaman in frosties)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-10201305025239522462012-01-07T19:26:59.133+11:002012-01-07T19:26:59.133+11:00People will always have elitist attitudes, and I c...People will always have elitist attitudes, and I can't change their attitudes, I can only lead by example. We don't want to cull people from raids, well I don't because I like to play with everyone, but we tried to make raids on different days to ensure those people do get to raid (unfortunately I can't play 6 days a week or I'd help run those other raids too). Good players get frustrated when they feel held back, and less good players feel frustrated when they feel left behind. Where is the medium? I'm not sure, and if I had the answers to that, I am sure I would feel less stressed out and not have to vent on poor Alliance peeps :)Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-68407617861350780702012-01-07T19:09:45.181+11:002012-01-07T19:09:45.181+11:00On second thought, my comment is probably not fair...On second thought, my comment is probably not fair for Gutsy, he probably is not confident on making up the lack of experience hence the response. But that is to be expected, even with our best group it is not guaranteed kill everytime (at least for now)<br /><br />KsretAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-73097993553544811132012-01-07T18:54:21.021+11:002012-01-07T18:54:21.021+11:00we only cleared DS like 3 times and ppl already fe...we only cleared DS like 3 times and ppl already feel they "carry" those who doesnt have the title... gee those ppl they "carry" will be the ones that help clear heroics...<br /><br />Serious attitude problem here Navi<br />Do we must have our "Destroyer's End" title from somewhere before we can be claimed not to be "carried" by guys that killed it maybe once or twice before? and to be so mad that he wont talk to an officer!?<br /><br />I think the officers need to talk to ppl to change their attitudes to raidingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-49136034661184824032012-01-07T16:48:24.923+11:002012-01-07T16:48:24.923+11:00@Targetme - I didn't say that. Check the logs...@Targetme - I didn't say that. Check the logs, you can see how well you did :)Navimiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504557372435466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-49655235332387473232012-01-07T16:39:40.765+11:002012-01-07T16:39:40.765+11:00I guess i was not healing at all the night....I guess i was not healing at all the night....Targetmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10969975821493997527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9139205590317840868.post-82742860999781663592012-01-07T15:04:01.236+11:002012-01-07T15:04:01.236+11:00voe got the raid killed? not a shock therevoe got the raid killed? not a shock thereTargetmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10969975821493997527noreply@blogger.com